Website Construction - Help Needed.

[Axeman]

Well hello there. I've been having another thought (I know, I know. I should stop that filthy habity!) and that is - is there anyone here who can help in giving me some in-depth but easy to understand advice on methods on making up my own website?

Learning about page design and HTML coding methods is also a huge bonus as well.

Also, any ideas on who the best host is?

Cheers muckers! :)

[Kat]

Well hello there. I've been having another thought (I know, I know. I should stop that filthy habity!) and that is - is there anyone here who can help in giving me some in-depth but easy to understand advice on methods on making up my own website?

Learning about page design and HTML coding methods is also a huge bonus as well.

Also, any ideas on who the best host is?

Cheers muckers! :)

Who's your internet provider.. some normally let you have free space to design a website.. once you've got used to that you can upgrade until you find a decent host site.. I use Frontpage and its pretty easy.. I know my site name is a bit long winded, but I'm using my provider at the moment for £4 a month..I get a 100mb of space & i've only used 21% if that so far.. check the site out to see what can be done.....it even helps me understand HTML code & all the other gobbledy gook....lol

[Axeman]

Who's your internet provider.. some normally let you have free space to design a website.. once you've got used to that you can upgrade until you find a decent host site.. I use Frontpage and its pretty easy.. I know my site name is a bit long winded, but I'm using my provider at the moment for £4 a month..I get a 100mb of space & i've only used 21% if that so far.. check the site out to see what can be done.....it even helps me understand HTML code & all the other gobbledy gook....lol

I'm with ntl.

Where do I go to get some sort of step-by-step guide on how to do this? As you can tell I am completely brand new to all this tech stuff and not too savvy with anything...

Cool site btw :)

[Kat]

You know where to come now when ya want something nice ...:D

(and before anyone says anything I mean the cards..lol)





NTL should have something on their homepage about creating webspace/webpages...try looking on there 1st... or try putting free web hosting in ya search engine...but if you've never done it before ya prob better off trying the freebie if they do one... Frontpage 2003 is about the best web site designer out there..and nearly every host site excepts it.. once you've designed..its easy to transfer over...

I'll see if I can find some info for you...

[Creature]

i use the following sites for when i need to figure out something - when i update my website

http://html-color-codes.com/

http://www.boogiejack.com/html_tutorials.html

http://www.echoecho.com/htmltext06.htm

[Kat]

http://www.bravenet.com/




try this one...they've got everything you need......

[andy_k]

Do a google search on HTML code, endless amounts of info out there - thats I learnt.


:D

[Urban Terrorist]

I use www.freewebs.com

[Bosun]

I'm with ntl.

Where do I go to get some sort of step-by-step guide on how to do this? As you can tell I am completely brand new to all this tech stuff and not too savvy with anything...

Cool site btw :)

ntl give you 55meg of space
and im using front page which isnt much harder than word
I borrowed a step trough book from the library
NTL have some help as well

good luck

[baldyshinehead]

yes, frontpage is very good if you dont know what your doing, and you can view the html code too which helps with learning how that works

[John Hopkins]

I used to have a shop and I did this. http://www.tvworkshop.freeuk.com If you are going to make a website don't call it freds site. call it something that will be found when a stranger googles it. nudists.freeuk.com will be found by nudists, motorbikeworkshop.freeuk.com will be found by googling motorbike. The reason for the freeuk bit is they dont charge you anything at all. (you have to spend 2p on a local call each time you update or every six months). When you have decided what to call it make it easy for your customers to find the page they want, an index like mine is simple and every computor can see it. (not everyone can see frames so try to avoid them) Look at other sites and copy the bits you like. You have to sort out an FTP and something easy to draw the pages but once you have the basics sorted it will be like writing a letter. Update the site so people don't get bored. and date each update or they will think they have already seen it all. (Note the dates on this forum) Not saying more I've hogged enough space, Good Luck. :confused:

[Womble_Lancs]

I use DotEasy (http://www.doteasy.com)

It's $40 £21 to register a domain name for 2 years and you get 100mb space with it for no extra cost.

[Axeman]

COOL! Cheers mucks. Lots of info here. I'll keep you all posted about any and all success. :)

[InSanCen]

I handcode my sites... if ya want to know something, PM me...

[pagan_flame]

http://www.bravenet.com/
try this one...they've got everything you need......NO NO NO not Bravenet - fuppin banner adverts on the top of every single page.

Same again with Frontpage - easy to use but sticks all its' junk Microsoft code in there. Dreamweaver is the tool of choice for most pro users (mine was built with DW Ultradev) - gives you the WYSIWYG view for building and allows you to view HTML just the same as Front Page.

A bit harder to learn to use but worth it... hand coding is luvly if you are not in a rush to get your site up and finished --- and can spot the missing full stop in a full page of code that is making it look cr8p in a browser... :rolleyes: Most pro's use DW with a bit of hand coding to get the job done a bit quicker.

If yer set on it, for an HTML code tutorial, try... errrm... doh... http://www.htmlcodetutorial.com/ :rolleyes:

Domain names - most cheapy ones will once again put their banner ads on your page, I use Low Cost Names (http://www.lcn.biz), which for £7.50 for a .co.uk allows you to point the domain at your site on your webspace; (e.g. http://www.firedance.biz actually lives at http://www.slingshot.uk.com/fd )

The down side is that i will do squat on search engines, so you need to submit the 'real' address not the domain name.

To get into lots of different effects on yer page you'll be needing Javascript - but don;t need to learn that 'cos you can get them for free already written, all over the web - start off here --- http://www.javascript.com/

Wanna talk ROR XML files, anyone? :confused:

[Axeman]

NO NO NO not Bravenet - fuppin banner adverts on the top of every single page.

Same again with Frontpage - easy to use but sticks all its' junk Microsoft code in there. Dreamweaver is the tool of choice for most pro users (mine was built with DW Ultradev) - gives you the WYSIWYG view for building and allows you to view HTML just the same as Front Page.

A bit harder to learn to use but worth it... hand coding is luvly if you are not in a rush to get your site up and finished --- and can spot the missing full stop in a full page of code that is making it look cr8p in a browser... :rolleyes: Most pro's use DW with a bit of hand coding to get the job done a bit quicker.

If yer set on it, for an HTML code tutorial, try... errrm... doh... http://www.htmlcodetutorial.com/ :rolleyes:

Domain names - most cheapy ones will once again put their banner ads on your page, I use Low Cost Names (http://www.lcn.biz), which for £7.50 for a .co.uk allows you to point the domain at your site on your webspace; (e.g. http://www.firedance.biz actually lives at http://www.slingshot.uk.com/fd )

The down side is that i will do squat on search engines, so you need to submit the 'real' address not the domain name.

To get into lots of different effects on yer page you'll be needing Javascript - but don;t need to learn that 'cos you can get them for free already written, all over the web - start off here --- http://www.javascript.com/

Wanna talk ROR XML files, anyone? :confused:

Cheers mate, that looks good.

[manky monkey]

I use a Yoda for mine. Just take photos, write words, send 'em to Yoda & they're magically done. :D
My forum's up & running again by the way. Yodie to the rescue once again. Thanks mate. We suffered some corrupted data, which meant he's had to wipe the last 5 weeks worth of forum posts to get back to uncorrupted stuff. The man's a little marvel. :)

[The Beer Monsters]

Hosting...

www.myqth.co.uk

£29 a year for 3GB of web space, 100GB per month bandwidth, PHP, Frontpage and MySQL support, full CPanel interface, it's the dogs gonads.

[InSanCen]

1and1

£35 half-yearly, 800MB Space, 10GB Monthly... Includes a .co.uk Domain name as well. Linux BAsed but most people will never know the difference.

You'll need a big site to hammer that, but gives you room for expansion. Silly fast servers, redundant backups, Front-page, CGI, Chat, Stat's... the list goes on (And I can't be arsed typing it :p )

A very large company that knows it's stuff (Biggest in Europe I believe)

And on that note, If anyone needs anything hosted, piccies or stuff, PM me

[slob]

www.mrsite.com

£30 a year and has drag and drop interface for webdesign... aparrently very very good.

[Yoda]

Hosting...

www.myqth.co.uk

£29 a year for 3GB of web space, 100GB per month bandwidth, PHP, Frontpage and MySQL support, full CPanel interface, it's the dogs gonads.
i must say thats a bargain, and am gunna bag meself some of that

Yoda

[Otter]

I handcode my sites

Ditto.

FrontPage, Dreamweaver, etc all seem to add extra code that isn't needed.

Also, not every uses IE as their browser. I hate it but I still code so that my work still appears okay on it. FP (and to some extent DW) both allow extras that only work in IE.

[Axeman]

Just bringing this thread up for kat. :)

[Mitch]

Where's Topper when you need him...? Forum Member who joined in 2004, but doesn't post that often sadly.

He used to design the SE MAG website when I was rep (he's no longer involved with MAG locally, but still helps out nationally). He hard-codes every website he does which in my opinion is a complete pain to do, but the SE site was a credit to him (shame I can't open it anymore). He works in IT for a living.

What he doesn't know about websites isn't worth knowing... :)

[weesis]

http://www.1and1.co.uk cheap and extremely easy for beginners, basic package gives you 8 pages, templates, everything you need to build basic website, just upload yer pics & text, no need for html, only if YOU choose to use it! then when you out-grow that package, easy upgrades! They have loads to choose from!