Who watched...

[Violetmay]

That programme on ch 4 last night Sex and my slaves... This guy had spent 25 years as a torture master for S&M male clients..

He lived in this well big house which did need decorating .. but the cellar was kitted out as a dungeon.. the documentary make had spent a year with him as he was trying to give it all up..as it was blasphemous..

They showed him performing S&M on his punters. He was down to 6 clients. One he'd had for 15 years.. and some others. They showed one bloke called Christine.. who dressed as this woman.. and was whipped and beat on his ass till it almost cracked and bled..

Another you didn't see it happen.. was fisted. whilst tied to a crucifix...the mess afterwards made me heave...

The bloke doing the master thing had had a terrible life.. raped at 12 by two men, then at 17, and turned to a violent S&M master after a client asked him to 'hurt him for money'... it was sad for him.. but it was vile to watch.

But at the same time I couldn't turn it off either...

Interesting though.. did have some weird dreams though afterward..

[krammer]

That programme on ch 4 last night Sex and my slaves... This guy had spent 25 years as a torture master for S&M male clients..

He lived in this well big house which did need decorating .. but the cellar was kitted out as a dungeon.. the documentary make had spent a year with him as he was trying to give it all up..as it was blasphemous..

They showed him performing S&M on his punters. He was down to 6 clients. One he'd had for 15 years.. and some others. They showed one bloke called Christine.. who dressed as this woman.. and was whipped and beat on his ass till it almost cracked and bled..

Another you didn't see it happen.. was fisted. whilst tied to a crucifix...the mess afterwards made me heave...

The bloke doing the master thing had had a terrible life.. raped at 12 by two men, then at 17, and turned to a violent S&M master after a client asked him to 'hurt him for money'... it was sad for him.. but it was vile to watch.

But at the same time I couldn't turn it off either...

Interesting though.. did have some weird dreams though afterward.. what's fisting?

[Violetmay]

what's fisting?
Messy.and sounded ffffffing painful....I almost turned off then.. pooh everywhere... :eek:

[yorak_hunt]

Yea, i watched that.
He was one disturbed fecking fella.

That fisting scene made me want to spew too, very heavy stuff.
Interesting to see of they'll make a follow-up programme, i wonder what he'll do next.



He looked very sad and lonely, i think he'll be back with his arm up some geezers dirtbox by next week.

[Violetmay]

Yea, i watched that.
He was one disturbed fecking fella.

That fisting scene made me want to spew too, very heavy stuff.
Interesting to see of they'll make a follow-up programme, i wonder what he'll do next.
He looked very sad and lonely, i think he'll be back fisting blokes by next week.


Yeah he did seem to get off on the dressing up and whole control thing. Can't see him getting the same buzz doing a proper job. He was sad and lonely.. but his house reminded me of something from a horror film or silence of the lambs... the cellar....

[yorak_hunt]

Yeah he did seem to get off on the dressing up and whole control thing. Can't see him getting the same buzz doing a proper job. He was sad and lonely.. but his house reminded me of something from a horror film or silence of the lambs... the cellar....


Very scary that house,

he was very, very disturbed.
Very blaise about some exteremely sordid stuff.

By the end i felt quite sorry for him.

[Violetmay]

Very scary that house,

he was very, very disturbed.
Very blaise about some exteremely sordid stuff.

By the end i felt quite sorry for him.


Yeah I started off being disgusted.. then his story unfolded and I just felt sad for him.. abuse is all he knew.. and revenge is what he was getting on people who liked it...

[Yoda]

it was interesting and shows you how normal people

I must admit i felt sorry for him

he was alone, he had no idea of who he was or where he was going

Yoda

[yorak_hunt]

Yeah I started off being disgusted.. then his story unfolded and I just felt sad for him.. abuse is all he knew.. and revenge is what he was getting on people who liked it...


Good point, the revenge aspect. I hadn't thought of that.

Maybe thats why it was such a trip for him to dress up as figures of power eg..Soldier, police etc....

[Violetmay]

Good point, the revenge aspect. I hadn't thought of that.

Maybe thats why it was such a trip for him to dress up as figures of power eg..Soldier, police etc....


Yep power dressing...

[smeghead]

what's fisting?
fishing with t i believe ;)

[yorak_hunt]

Yep power dressing...


Is that like a very strong sauce for salad? :D

[Violetmay]

Is that like a very strong sauce for salad? :D


yeah mayo with attitude!!! :D

[Juke]

I didn't see this programme, but I wish I had!............. :eek:

I have friends who run an adult club, and I have met alot of thier friends who practice some very 'strange' sexual practices indeed. I have been shocked by some of the things I have seen. And anyone who knows me will tell you I aint shocked easily.
This guy sounds really fcuked up, bless him. I guess it goes to show that abuse in childhoood really does effect you later in life.

Poor bloke................... :(

[Violetmay]

I didn't see this programme, but I wish I had!............. :eek:

I have friends who run an adult club, and I have met alot of thier friends who practice some very 'strange' sexual practices indeed. I have been shocked by some of the things I have seen. And anyone who knows me will tell you I aint shocked easily.
This guy sounds really fcuked up, bless him. I guess it goes to show that abuse in childhoood really does effect you later in life.

Poor bloke................... :(

yeah his dad walked on him when was just 9, and that was his first bad point.. then he died so he never got to know his dad.. so he just went a bit off the rails, and was abused by friends of the family. Would like to think he does change his life now.

[Juke]

How old was he?
Where was he from?

[Violetmay]

How old was he?
Where was he from?

er 45-50tops.. er from can't remember...very good looking bloke.. now grey/whiite, distinguished features, nice smile, and very fit, London accent or southern urban.. not a country boy, I'll have to dig out his name etc.. :D

[Mistress Maker]

I missed this programme ,but wished I,d seen it.
I do agree the guy seems very disturbed and USES the SM as a release for his past hurts. It IS a power thing ,but it depends on how far and how extreme it goes on the persons concerned.

Also ,what the programme probably did not explain, is that the guys who were visiting him for his 'services' were doing so out of there own free will , and would have indicated to the 'Master' as to how they would like the 'scene' to go.There would have also been a 'safe' word , in other words STOP. I would presume that they also have issues if they have asked for and allowed things to go so far.

Some people use BDSM as a way of control, wether it be their life or wanting someone else to take control for them , ie the master and slave senario.

HOWEVER a LOT of peeps use mild BDSM as an extension to their sex life , it is an added sensation .

[SatinBlack]

I missed this programme ,but wished I,d seen it.
I do agree the guy seems very disturbed and USES the SM as a release for his past hurts. It IS a power thing ,but it depends on how far and how extreme it goes on the persons concerned.

Also ,what the programme probably did not explain, is that the guys who were visiting him for his 'services' were doing so out of there own free will , and would have indicated to the 'Master' as to how they would like the 'scene' to go.There would have also been a 'safe' word , in other words STOP. I would presume that they also have issues if they have asked for and allowed things to go so far.

Some people use BDSM as a way of control, wether it be their life or wanting someone else to take control for them , ie the master and slave senario.

I used to work in a bar that had fetish/BDSM parties and got to know a lot of people in the scene and as you say "the guys who were visiting him for his 'services' were doing so out of there own free will".

There was also a lot of female slaves with doms (very scary!) and male masters and despite what they might like to think the slave is the one that is really in control assuming it's a proper mutual arrangement.

Occasionally some newbie would turn up and gob off that he could take anything the doms could hand out so after i had a word in their ear they often obliged....he couldn't, but made us larf :rolleyes:

Saw this film the other night and wasn't that impressed, won't say any more for those that haven't seen it, maybe i've been to to many fetish nights!

http://www.sy9apses.plus.com/elhut.jpg

[yorak_hunt]

I missed this programme ,but wished I,d seen it.
I do agree the guy seems very disturbed and USES the SM as a release for his past hurts. It IS a power thing ,but it depends on how far and how extreme it goes on the persons concerned.

Also ,what the programme probably did not explain, is that the guys who were visiting him for his 'services' were doing so out of there own free will , and would have indicated to the 'Master' as to how they would like the 'scene' to go.There would have also been a 'safe' word , in other words STOP. I would presume that they also have issues if they have asked for and allowed things to go so far.

Some people use BDSM as a way of control, wether it be their life or wanting someone else to take control for them , ie the master and slave senario.

HOWEVER a LOT of peeps use mild BDSM as an extension to their sex life , it is an added sensation .

I know about the safe word used in the BDSM scene, although one punter that he was fisting wasn't allowed to utter it, he even said that he would ignore it if it was said.
Then "The Master" gagged the fella before covering his head in a mask.
I thought that was very strange, surely there has to be a "get-out clause"?

I found that to be the most disturbing bit in all honesty.

[addjunkie]

I know about the safe word used in the BDSM scene, although one punter that he was fisting wasn't allowed to utter it, he even said that he would ignore it if it was said.
Then "The Master" gagged the fella before covering his head in a mask.
I thought that was very strange, surely there has to be a "get-out clause"?

I found that to be the most disturbing bit in all honesty.

yes seems a bit strange.......you need a get -out clause, maybe they were gonna use other signals, joking here but semaphore, for example.

i think some of these documentaries dont tell you the full storey to rasie the sensational aspect of their film....if it was billed as totally safe deviant but not dangerous kinks would you all have watched it.

[Mistress Maker]

I know about the safe word used in the BDSM scene, although one punter that he was fisting wasn't allowed to utter it, he even said that he would ignore it if it was said.
Then "The Master" gagged the fella before covering his head in a mask.
I thought that was very strange, surely there has to be a "get-out clause"?

I found that to be the most disturbing bit in all honesty.


If that was the case then the guy was not a Master but an abuser using the guise of Master to get his kicks ............the 'safe' word is sacrescent to the scene.The slave or 'sub' is the one who should be in ultimate control of what occurs and when it stops.

[Taff]

Sounds like they should have a very special guest at their next party:
Zyklon-B.

[Mistress Maker]

please don,t encourage this guy , some peeps get off on asphyxiation :eek:

it really worries me!

[Violetmay]

I missed this programme ,but wished I,d seen it.
I do agree the guy seems very disturbed and USES the SM as a release for his past hurts. It IS a power thing ,but it depends on how far and how extreme it goes on the persons concerned.

Also ,what the programme probably did not explain, is that the guys who were visiting him for his 'services' were doing so out of there own free will , and would have indicated to the 'Master' as to how they would like the 'scene' to go.There would have also been a 'safe' word , in other words STOP. I would presume that they also have issues if they have asked for and allowed things to go so far.

Some people use BDSM as a way of control, wether it be their life or wanting someone else to take control for them , ie the master and slave senario.

HOWEVER a LOT of peeps use mild BDSM as an extension to their sex life , it is an added sensation .

Hi.. with the fisting scene the guy was not allowed a safeword.. it was a condition of the transaction... he was gagged so he couldn't. Think he wished he had...The master kept saying.. it's something he has to go through without the priveledge of a safe word.. so maybe he felt he had to be punished for some sexual act he'd done and not allowed someone the luxury of saying no. dunno..it was done more as a retribution act that one. But the other bloke had one, but didn't need it as the guy doing it could see injuries were occuring.

Yeah lots of people use BDSM of their own free will and paying for it or exchanging it etc.. wasn't being prudish about the element of SM etc, was more concerned about the guy in the programme and why he had chosen to do it, and yes a bit shocked at how far it can go. I did a lot of reading on the marquis de Sade, he was a fascinating person... but quite terrifying.

[Violetmay]

I used to work in a bar that had fetish/BDSM parties and got to know a lot of people in the scene and as you say "the guys who were visiting him for his 'services' were doing so out of there own free will".

Saw this film the other night and wasn't that impressed, won't say any more for those that haven't seen it, maybe i've been to to many fetish nights!

http://www.sy9apses.plus.com/elhut.jpg

I know about the safe word used in the BDSM scene, although one punter that he was fisting wasn't allowed to utter it, he even said that he would ignore it if it was said.
Then "The Master" gagged the fella before covering his head in a mask.
I thought that was very strange, surely there has to be a "get-out clause"?

I found that to be the most disturbing bit in all honesty.

I don't think the film was about the BDSM scene more about the guy, if it was about the scene it would have feature parties and clubs etc... it was about a guys year long struggle to give it up and his abusive teen years.

And yes as yh says the fact the guy was not allowed to utter a safe word was disturbing..

Not something I am into at all, but find interesting...and as long as free will is excercised fine.. I do have a whip tho, and am a bossy cow..but that's as far as it goes for me.. :D

[Mistress Maker]

Not something I am into at all, but find interesting...and as long as free will is excercised fine.. I do have a whip tho, and am a bossy cow..but that's as far as it goes for me.. :D



haha You show me yours and I,ll show u mine ...................was wondering with a name like Violetmay thought you might be into violet wands :D

[Violetmay]

haha You show me yours and I,ll show u mine ...................was wondering with a name like Violetmay thought you might be into violet wands :D

Genuinely ignorant here will go and google it and see what it is .. think u might stick it somewhere.. but let's see.. :D

[Violetmay]

OOOOerrr missus.. nice colour violet though!!! :D

[Simon B]

I know a good safe word

'' If you even think about doing that to me Im going to tear your throat out''

Works all the time

But all this safe word secrecy etc, its just a word agreed to by individuals involved to know when to stop.

[Violetmay]

Yep could be anything could be ... custard...(Oh if someone see's this they will kill me.. Oh dark lord of!) :D

[Simon B]

Rasberries

Better than custard

And helps to add the comedy element

[Violetmay]

I think I'd say.. stop or I'll stick that up your arse!! :D

[Simon B]

Nah wouldnt work, that just gives some of them more of an incentive to carry on :eek:

[Violetmay]

True.. I wonder (going back to the programme), how he is now.. cos it would be about 6 months on now..might google him...(he'd like that)... and see where he is at now.. :rolleyes: