NOW: This bloke is the biggest CNUT I've ever heard of

[Borg]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4743354.stm

Not a nice story so if you get angry and punch your monitor when things get to you

do NOT read it

[bad toad]

tis another reason for the right to bear arms!!!!

[scouselee]

what the fuck is happening out there, the fuckin worlds going crazy, scares the sh1t out of me letting my daughter out on her own, somewhere there is a crazy dirty bastard lurking about, and I hope my girls wise enough to keepout of his way :mad:

[Dexxie]

The court was told McKee and Kerry's mother Lorna Muchan had lived as man and wife and he treated the girl as his own.


...his own what FFS??

[UKRobT309]

Another reason Hanging should be bought back. Im sure he'll have a bit of prison justice given to him but it wont be any where near enough cause the scummy peice of **** well get protection. Hang the fucker i say. :mad:

[Skip]

It`s a sick,sick world.

[Spike]

Another one that should fucking burn :mad:

[kitkatman]

that is so upsetting....................its your step daughter, its your own blood ffs................very upsetting :( :( :mad:

[Juke]

speechless..............
how can any judge see that any punishment less than the death penalty is good enough for this man?
how can any member of the public see that any punishment less than the death penalty is good enough for this man?

Oh yeah, of course..............the death penalty is inhumane huh?

This girl WILL haunt this man, her spirit will never rest in peace, and I hope the mother dont stand by him or she shold hang too!!!!

[UKRobT309]

Gotta say and i swear on this, i'd see the fucker dead if it was my daughter he'd done this to. remember he's the step father, theres a biological father somewhere. :mad:

[zeddman]

Gotta say and i swear on this, i'd see the fucker dead if it was my daughter he'd done this to. remember he's the step father, theres a biological father somewhere. :mad:

gotta agree wiv yer there .....................and I would it a very unpleasent (for him),and slow death

[slob]

words fail me .. hope the prison community get to him! :mad:

[normanmarina]

Another reason Hanging should be bought back. Im sure he'll have a bit of prison justice given to him but it wont be any where near enough cause the scummy peice of **** well get protection. Hang the fucker i say. :mad:
A widely debated subject,personally I agree 100% dont see any other way,the dogooders and bleedin hearts will argue past crime figures and statistics!! b******s if these spineless scum thought for one second their actions may result in pain for themselves rather than a jail sentence three meals a day and far more educational opportunities than your average joe then they wouldnt do it!!! if one innocent life was saved then its worth it for me.Sorry for going on but I really do feel strongly on this,its time our children and in my case grandchildren were safe to walk the streets,wonder how brady and hindley would have behaved if they thought they could swing!!!!

[Mia Wallace]

a hangings too good for this fucker....

:mad:

[normanmarina]

When brady and hindley commited their terrible crimes it was front page news for months and is still discussed to this day,now crimes of equal magnitude are commited daily and nobody bats an eyelid really,this only goes to show how bad things have become,there is always someone making excuses for lowlifes!! "divorced parents!! neglected!! etc" SO F*****G WHAT,ive met loads of people with similar backgrounds and they are decent human beings,we have gone too far with this human rights malarkey,youve got people like the late lord longford describing hindley as "a nice lady!!!!" she recorded a child begging for its life for gods sake!!! everday somewhere a wicked vicious crime is commited against someone usually those who cant fight back ie children OAPs,its time decent people stood up to be counted,bet something would be done if every single decent person held back their council tax payment!!!!!!

[Blue]

I heard this on the radio driving home last night, and it's not often that a news story leaves me gobsmacked. I find the fact that he only got nine years (which, with GB, will be about four actually served) is quite unbelievable. But, hopefully this story will have received enough media coverage that a more suitable punishment will be taken care of when he's inside.

[rabidosa]

A vile monster, hope his fellow inmates find his cell unlocked and a blind eye is turned.

[johnr]

...his own what FFS??

my thoughts exactly dexxie, that statement leaped out at me too!

[normanmarina]

A vile monster, hope his fellow inmates find his cell unlocked and a blind eye is turned.
Quite agree,and hopefully resulting in two blind eyes dished out by said inmates.

[bill?]

hope his fellow inmates find his cell unlocked.
certain types of offenders this happens quite by accident.


not that I would know anything about it.

[scouselee]

as long as they don't do it all at once, just enough to keep him hurting each and every day, topped up each and every day with more of the same, sh1t my little girls over there and my arse is gone with worry :mad:

[johnr]

When brady and hindley commited their terrible crimes it was front page news for months and is still discussed to this day,now crimes of equal magnitude are commited daily and nobody bats an eyelid really,this only goes to show how bad things have become,there is always someone making excuses for lowlifes!! "divorced parents!! neglected!! etc" SO F*****G WHAT,ive met loads of people with similar backgrounds and they are decent human beings,we have gone too far with this human rights malarkey,youve got people like the late lord longford describing hindley as "a nice lady!!!!" she recorded a child begging for its life for gods sake!!! everday somewhere a wicked vicious crime is commited against someone usually those who cant fight back ie children OAPs,its time decent people stood up to be counted,bet something would be done if every single decent person held back their council tax payment!!!!!!

whilst im in total agreement that the guy in this case is a complete scumbag, and deserves the treatment he will be meted out from his fellow inmates in jail, lets not also forget that the majority of these hideous crimes arent committed by a chitty chitty bang bang style of child catcher. whilst there are, and always have been, low life scum out there who will seize any opportunity to satisfy their own perversions, the majority of acts of violence or sexual assault against children are carried out by members of the childs own family or family friends. its a ****ty awful fact, but its a fact all the same, as this case shows.
and before you ask, i dont have an answer to it, sure its "society" as they say, but if they bring back hanging as the deterent, who is going to pull the rope? remember that you cant un-hang someone, the birmingham six, guilford four, and many many others would all be long dead and cold now. would the person who pulled the lever also be prepared to knock on the door of the family of the wrongly hanged and say sorry?and lets not forget that the police have a long history in the uk of trying to make the evidence fit their own suspect. re introducing hanging, for all its attractions would lose its gloss when the first dead person is proved innocent. what then? take a look across the pond at the us system, they have hanging, lethal injection, the gas chamber and the electric chair, but they are still amongst the most dangerous societys on earth. but look who is making up the majority on death row, the poor, the blacks and the mentally ill. the people who only need to sit in front of a "jury of their peers" to be found guilty before the evidence is even shown. like ive said, i dont have an answer for societys ills, but i know that the reintroduction of hanging isnt one. that puts the power of life and death back into the hands of the system, and they cant be trusted with the powers they have now.

[Violetmay]

[QUOTE=bill?]certain types of offenders this happens quite by accident.




Good......

[normanmarina]

whilst im in total agreement that the guy in this case is a complete scumbag, and deserves the treatment he will be meted out from his fellow inmates in jail, lets not also forget that the majority of these hideous crimes arent committed by a chitty chitty bang bang style of child catcher. whilst there are, and always have been, low life scum out there who will seize any opportunity to satisfy their own perversions, the majority of acts of violence or sexual assault against children are carried out by members of the childs own family or family friends. its a ****ty awful fact, but its a fact all the same, as this case shows.
and before you ask, i dont have an answer to it, sure its "society" as they say, but if they bring back hanging as the deterent, who is going to pull the rope? remember that you cant un-hang someone, the birmingham six, guilford four, and many many others would all be long dead and cold now. would the person who pulled the lever also be prepared to knock on the door of the family of the wrongly hanged and say sorry?and lets not forget that the police have a long history in the uk of trying to make the evidence fit their own suspect. re introducing hanging, for all its attractions would lose its gloss when the first dead person is proved innocent. what then? take a look across the pond at the us system, they have hanging, lethal injection, the gas chamber and the electric chair, but they are still amongst the most dangerous societys on earth. but look who is making up the majority on death row, the poor, the blacks and the mentally ill. the people who only need to sit in front of a "jury of their peers" to be found guilty before the evidence is even shown. like ive said, i dont have an answer for societys ills, but i know that the reintroduction of hanging isnt one. that puts the power of life and death back into the hands of the system, and they cant be trusted with the powers they have now.
Now then John lets have less tolerance and more bigotry!!!!!!!

[johnr]

i wouldnt have clased myself as being tolerant, or biggoted, that is just my oppinion. hanging and flogging are all well and good if you can absolutely guarantee beyond any(and not just a reasonable) doubt. but it isnt always possible to do that. and i would always ask the promoters of it "would you pull the lever"?
here in the void of cyberspace, where everything can be made to seem like a good idea if you word it right, its all too easy to just use "bring back hanging" as almost a throwaway line, a pannacea for all lifes ills. as though if you re-introduce it on monday, and spend all week dispatching the undesirables from our current prison population, by friday, all the world will be a better place, the sun will always shine, no crime will be committed, and we can all leave our doors unlocked, just like granny did. aint going to happen, and we all know that, scum always rises to the surface, and no matter how many times you scoop it off, it always will.we dont need to hang the bad guys, we need to catch them. as hiddeous as this case is, it will happen again, girls will be raped by family members, grannys will be robbed by their own kids or grandkids, and only a small percentage of these cases will even get reported, and of those reported, only a small percentage will result in charges being brought. and of that small pecentage of a small percentage, when it gets to court, a minority will be convicted. what we need, isnt an ultimate deterent, we just need a deterent. if there was a good chance of a conviction then many criminals or potential criminals may be deterred, but if you know that theres less than 1% chance of you even having to stand in the dock, what deterent is that?
im not tolerant, im just being realistic.

[Doro]

you know my views on capital punishment

Timothy Evans

police tell lies

they will accuse anyone who fits their purposes

as Timothy's case shows - they can even get them to 'confess' to murders they have not committed

it could be YOU being wrongly accused and facing the death sentance

however - 9 years is not enough for this scum

I wish we could have a law which says the death penalty can only be applied when the perp is found red handed committing the crime

however that would be too difficult to enforce - the law can't have grey areas in situations involving the death sentance

which is why I disagree with it

not because I am a bleeding heart - I say hang him - but while there are cases of innocent people being found guilty - then we should not bring back hanging

as I said before - use the birch - the stocks (which would be a much more severe form of punishment than putting him out of his misery (which also joins the subject of euthanasia) imagine what would happen to him if he was put in stocks in his home town???)

[normanmarina]

i wouldnt have clased myself as being tolerant, or biggoted, that is just my oppinion. hanging and flogging are all well and good if you can absolutely guarantee beyond any(and not just a reasonable) doubt. but it isnt always possible to do that. and i would always ask the promoters of it "would you pull the lever"?
here in the void of cyberspace, where everything can be made to seem like a good idea if you word it right, its all too easy to just use "bring back hanging" as almost a throwaway line, a pannacea for all lifes ills. as though if you re-introduce it on monday, and spend all week dispatching the undesirables from our current prison population, by friday, all the world will be a better place, the sun will always shine, no crime will be committed, and we can all leave our doors unlocked, just like granny did. aint going to happen, and we all know that, scum always rises to the surface, and no matter how many times you scoop it off, it always will.we dont need to hang the bad guys, we need to catch them. as hiddeous as this case is, it will happen again, girls will be raped by family members, grannys will be robbed by their own kids or grandkids, and only a small percentage of these cases will even get reported, and of those reported, only a small percentage will result in charges being brought. and of that small pecentage of a small percentage, when it gets to court, a minority will be convicted. what we need, isnt an ultimate deterent, we just need a deterent. if there was a good chance of a conviction then many criminals or potential criminals may be deterred, but if you know that theres less than 1% chance of you even having to stand in the dock, what deterent is that?
im not tolerant, im just being realistic.
In this age of DNA evidence then I think that in some circumstances the death penalty is the only sentence to pass,I also believe in the birch and corporal punishment in schools,but I agree with some of what you say and think that a start would be to make parents atonable for their offsprings misdemeanours and teach them some respect.PS you havent picked that tube up!!!!

[johnr]

PS you havent picked that tube up!!!!


what, the big industrial sized tube of ky ? i thought it was your week for that ?

[Bassman]

i wouldnt have clased myself as being tolerant, or biggoted, that is just my oppinion. hanging and flogging are all well and good if you can absolutely guarantee beyond any(and not just a reasonable) doubt. but it isnt always possible to do that. and i would always ask the promoters of it "would you pull the lever"?


Have to say Johnr, that in cases like this that involve kids, or old folks being hammered by fecking low-life scum... I would willingly pull the lever. Or chop their hands, feet, heads off. Thats the only thing scum like this understand, Probably have a better life in prison than they had outside it..

[johnr]

Have to say Johnr, that in cases like this that involve kids, or old folks being hammered by fecking low-life scum... I would willingly pull the lever. Or chop their hands, feet, heads off. Thats the only thing scum like this understand, Probably have a better life in prison than they had outside it..

but you, as many others fall into the trap, after you have happily pulled the lever, dropped the axe etc, someone turns round and says, well, actually it was me! what do you do? you are delivering the sentance based on the evidence presented by the prosecution and the poice. now if YOU were in the dock, would you trust the police to get the facts straight, especially if it ultimately means you yourself take a long drop on a short rope? there was a woman the other year , convicted on "expert witness" evidence by sir roy meadows, iirc sally clark was her name, now, lets put ourselves back in time, just after the trial, sally clarke=baby killer, would you have pulled the lever on her? convicted on "expert" testimony of shaking her own babies to death. clear cut case eh? not till some years later when meadows methodology was proven unsound, but, by then, in this hang and flog utopia, the woman is already dead and buried, what kind of apology would you give her family?
make no bones, if hanging is reintroduced, innocent people will eventually go to the gallows, its a fact, sooner or later, someone will cock it up, some plod will lose or mysteriously find some evidence, someone will contaminate a dna sample, all things that have in the past happened, or, heavens forbid, someone will stand in the box and lie. then someone will hang for a crime they didnt commit. its as inevitable as night following day. and i will be ashamed to be a member of a society that does that in my name.

[scouselee]

hangings too quick for the bastards, they should let all the animals go from the Labs and use these scumbags to do the testing on, give them the incurable diseases and let them be put through feckin torture, killing them outright is no punishment, they need to suffer every minute, human rights, these people are throwbacks they should.nt have any human rights after committing offences towards innocent woman and children.

[SatinBlack]

It's obvious that he had a not so hidden agenda by the fact that he let her do all the drink and drugs knowing full well she would be unconcious or unable to put up a fight, these "tactics" are not uncommon in abuse cases and it wouldn't be surprising if he had done it before but this time she died and he got caught, hang him from his feet in the Rottys cage :mad:

[bunbag]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4743354.stm

Not a nice story so if you get angry and punch your monitor when things get to you

do NOT read it
kill him now :mad:

[blackhack]

makes me ashamed to be scotish.....nothing else to say..........

[critch]

Gotta say and i swear on this, i'd see the fucker dead if it was my daughter he'd done this to. remember he's the step father, theres a biological father somewhere. :mad:

if she was mine hed die painfully and slowly :mad:

hope he gets buggered regularily with a half pound brick in nick :mad:

[Bassman]

Of course there can be mistakes on conviction.. and some innocent folks, could suffer undue consequences.
But i always think of the ones that will be out of prison after spending half of their term, and able to do it again, and again... Why does 10 years really mean 5? If they are given 10 years why don't they do the full term?
Look at the killers, child molesters, granny bashers etc.etc. that are sent to prison and come out and re-offend... how many innocent folk are harmed or killed by those?
Do they deserve to die? There is no perfect answer, and the do-gooder mentality that pervades this country, with all the reasons (excuses) of why they commit these crimes... is absolute rubbish.
At the very least if we had harsher sentencing and less bloody social workers making excuses for the scrotes that do whatever they want to these days.. maybe it would make them think before they did it..and more old folks, and kids would not get hammered..

Sorry for the rant...

[johnr]

Of course there can be mistakes on conviction.. and some innocent folks, could suffer undue consequences.
But i always think of the ones that will be out of prison after spending half of their term, and able to do it again, and again... Why does 10 years really mean 5? If they are given 10 years why don't they do the full term?
Look at the killers, child molesters, granny bashers etc.etc. that are sent to prison and come out and re-offend... how many innocent folk are harmed or killed by those?
Do they deserve to die? There is no perfect answer, and the do-gooder mentality that pervades this country, with all the reasons (excuses) of why they commit these crimes... is absolute rubbish.
At the very least if we had harsher sentencing and less bloody social workers making excuses for the scrotes that do whatever they want to these days.. maybe it would make them think before they did it..and more old folks, and kids would not get hammered..

Sorry for the rant...


so what youre saying is its ok if the occasional innocent person takes the drop, so long as there are plenty of guilty ones too? thats a bit like dropping the bomb on the battlefield whilst your own men are there, cos it will kill the enemy too!!?? america has numerous death penaltys, and they dont work, theyre executing more and more people off death row, yet the crime figures still spiral upwards, how do you explain that if the death penalty is the deterent you say it is?
as for the do gooder mentality, its an extreme at one end in the same was as the hang and flog em all mentality is at the other end of public oppinion. most of us sit somewhere in the middle

[scouselee]

sorry about this but heres another ***** what the fuck is wrong with people :mad:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tyne/4746642.stm

[BigSlim]

Another reason Hanging should be bought back. Im sure he'll have a bit of prison justice given to him but it wont be any where near enough cause the scummy peice of **** well get protection. Hang the fucker i say. :mad:
Hang draw and quater the sick F*****R!!! :mad: