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Juke
23-01-2006, 10:52 PM
i am talking to someone tomorrow bowt this petition and have to give them an idea of what we want......


opinions please...........
harsher sentences
lifetime sex offender listings
'name and shame' policy
capital punishment


if we have strong enough views, they will put me in touch with the next person along the line to help............

Shep
23-01-2006, 10:56 PM
Something emotive?


Protect our children!



I dunno. :confused:

tinkerbelltinkers
23-01-2006, 10:57 PM
i am talking to someone tomorrow bowt this petition and have to give them an idea of what we want......


opinions please...........
harsher sentences
lifetime sex offender listings
'name and shame' policy
capital punishment


if we have strong enough views, they will put me in touch with the next person along the line to help............

i`d go for all of em but harsher sentences seems to stand out for me :mad:

hope everyones ok :p

Juke
23-01-2006, 11:00 PM
alls well hun...u?


yeah harsher sentences are the most important thing. I personally am against paying taxes for them to have 3 square meals and warm beds every night though. Hang the bastads, thats my view :mad:

baldyshinehead
23-01-2006, 11:01 PM
harsher sentences is great, but we need them to serve the full sentence too, and never ever be let near children again.

tinkerbelltinkers
23-01-2006, 11:05 PM
alls well hun...u?


yeah harsher sentences are the most important thing. I personally am against paying taxes for them to have 3 square meals and warm beds every night though. Hang the bastads, thats my view :mad:


me too but dont think we`d get away with that wish we could :mad:

i agree they should serve the hole sentence and never be allow with in two cm of any one i wish they could all get life and it mean life or just get there bits cut off and get life :mad:

Juke
23-01-2006, 11:06 PM
aint prison too good though...after all the victims get no real justice do they?

tinkerbelltinkers
23-01-2006, 11:07 PM
Something emotive?


Protect our children!



I dunno. :confused:

i think thats a good one it would cover everything :(

Mad Liz
23-01-2006, 11:12 PM
This (http://www.parliament.uk/documents/upload/p07.pdf) might be useful.

tinkerbelltinkers
23-01-2006, 11:14 PM
aint prison too good though...after all the victims get no real justice do they?

yeah i think they should be choped up into little bits for what they`ve done :mad:

but it would still not be justice for the victims but it would be a start :mad:

Juke
23-01-2006, 11:14 PM
thanks for that Liz...great help..... :D

Juke
23-01-2006, 11:15 PM
maybe if they were made to confront thier victims from behind bars to apologise.....most of thme wouldnt give a fcuk though would they?

purplerabbit
23-01-2006, 11:17 PM
they need harsher sentences - most lifers in the states prefer capital as it means they arent incarcerated for so long

look at fred west and shipman - they both killed themselves rather than face their sentences

havent read the whole of the story behind this petition

but the name and shame campaign often backfires - it drives them underground where the police cant watch them - and then they are more free to offend again

in addition - since the Bichard enquiry - any complaint made against you is now held on your national police record - whether malicious or not

i am all for hanging the bastards myself - or cutting off their testicles with rusty razor blades and watching them die from scepticimia

but you have to carefully consider what you are asking for

a paed where the poice and social servics and probation know where he is

or one who has disappeared of the radar

Samx

baldyshinehead
23-01-2006, 11:18 PM
that would be harder on the victims i think juke. sure some of the bastards would get a sick pleasure from seeing them again.

purplerabbit
23-01-2006, 11:19 PM
maybe if they were made to confront thier victims from behind bars to apologise.....most of thme wouldnt give a fcuk though would they?
no they wouldnt because they dont see their actions asa crime

one of my friends is a social worker she went to a conference with an eminent psychiatrist - he said they only way to stop one is to cut of his legs so he cant walk then cut of his hands so he cant use a wheelchair

Samx

the boatman
23-01-2006, 11:19 PM
aint prison too good though...after all the victims get no real justice do they?
Bugger Prison that just means we the tax payer have to give money so they can have three square meals a day, a tv in their cell and the chance to get a degree by the time they come out and then some nonce would give them a new identity and a new life with a new house. I say a bullet to the back of the head and be done I mean how much does a bullit cost these day's. :mad:

Juke
23-01-2006, 11:20 PM
yeah you are right....stupid idea.....sorry i wasnt thinking


we need saomething real harsh and that the gov will see as a solution......
thats a tall bloody order in itself eh?...... :rolleyes:

Juke
23-01-2006, 11:33 PM
i think the only way to stop this henious crime is the death penalty for anyone who abuses a child....harsh but the only solution in my opinion

baldyshinehead
23-01-2006, 11:34 PM
i agree juke, but is it worth going for something we all kno the bleeding hearts will never let us have ?

Juke
23-01-2006, 11:35 PM
but if enough voices shouted, eventually they would be heard. I am aware we wont see a change overnight, probably not in my lifetime, but better late than never eh?

baldyshinehead
23-01-2006, 11:37 PM
i wasnt looking that far ahead. I see your point now

Juke
23-01-2006, 11:39 PM
if i dont do something to help these kids, however small and insignificant it may be, i will haunt even myself in death.....

tinkerbelltinkers
23-01-2006, 11:40 PM
maybe if they were made to confront thier victims from behind bars to apologise.....most of thme wouldnt give a fcuk though would they?

no they would`nt give a **** they see nothing wronge in what they are doing :mad:

mine didnt and nor did half the family even thro it had happened to half them before me i found out years on :mad: only my mum and dad stood by me

his wife even stood by him noing what he had done ( she walk threw the room)

i wish more could get done to stop these people :mad:

baldyshinehead
23-01-2006, 11:42 PM
it seems that something is trying to be done, by lots of people including juke, who has earnt alot more than respect for what they are trying to do.

tinkerbelltinkers
23-01-2006, 11:44 PM
but if enough voices shouted, eventually they would be heard. I am aware we wont see a change overnight, probably not in my lifetime, but better late than never eh?

go for it

thats my veiw too :mad:

Juke
24-01-2006, 07:41 AM
will lay out the heading today, and post it to see what you all think. Anyone wants changes or to add owt, let me know by PM........... :D