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09-08-2004, 08:22 AM
“County boundaries will be erased” - road policing chief

SIX-FORCE WELCOME COMMITTEE AWAITS MOTORCYCLISTS

Officers from six police forces await thousands of bikes and cars pouring into North Yorkshire for the region’s biggest motorcycle event.

They will deploy marked and unmarked police bikes and cars, speed camera vans, and extra patrols and speed checks across the county and beyond, backed with North Yorkshire Police’s get-tough fast-track policy which can cost extreme speeders their licences within days of being caught.

The event is this weekend’s round of the British Superbike Championships, to be held at Croft Circuit near North Yorkshire’s northern border.

The police operation is a direct response to a horrifying statistic - 28 riders died on the county’s roads last year.
“The racing on the track will be great,” said Superintendent Martin Deacon, head of Road Policing, “but that’s the only place for risk-taking and high speeds. I have a very uncomplicated message for all riders and drivers coming to Croft -

“Enjoy your visit, and we will do our best to help you do that. But if you ride or drive dangerously we will catch you, and we will take strong action.”

This year’s hard-line policy, backed by North Yorkshire County Council, has helped cut the rider fatality toll; there have been 11 to date, compared to 16 by the same time last year. Supt Deacon sees no cause for celebration: “That’s still 11 too many. We are well aware that not all motorcycle road deaths are the fault of the rider and that is why our message applies to all road users.

“We cannot tolerate this number of fatalities, and we will not tolerate bad, stupid or irresponsible behaviour by any driver or rider.”

He said the participating police forces were going to erase county boundaries and would operate on all major routes to and from Croft.

North Yorkshire officers will be joined in the unique multi-force operation by officers from the Cleveland, Durham, Cumbria, Lancashire and Humberside forces. They will police routes to Croft both in their own counties and on roads going well into North Yorkshire. Said Supt Deacon: “A very high proportion of the riders who die on our roads come from the surrounding counties; our fellow officers from those counties have all the motivation you could need to join together in driving down this dreadful toll.”

The operation starts on Friday evening. Thousands of spectators will be arriving to camp in the Croft area, ready for practice on Saturday, and the Superbike meeting on Sunday. Many more are expected on Sunday, and a detailed traffic management scheme has been drawn up with the County Council and the Highways Agency to ease their entry and exit to the rural circuit.

Supt Deacon said the police operation was up front and no secret. “Our tactic is to let road users know that there will be a large number of road policing officers on the routes to North Yorkshire generally and Croft in particular. Most you will see, others you won’t - unless you ride or drive like an idiot.

“We will not be out there to persecute anyone or to spoil anyone’s legitimate pleasure. We will be out there to save lives, it’s as simple as that.”

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Note: So far 245 extreme speeders - those breaking limits by more than 30mph - have been or are being fast-tracked to North Yorkshire courts. 32 of them are motorcyclists.

Nitrowing
09-08-2004, 10:59 AM
<mad>
How many people died falling down stairs last year?
How many junkies died taking overdoses last year?
How many children were sexually abused last year?
How many people were burgled last year?

Will someone please email a dictionary link of the word 'perspective' to our law enforcers please??

</mad>

Santa
09-08-2004, 12:12 PM
According to my dodgy maths I make that about 13% of the extreme speeders are bikes - therefore 87% must be cars, etc. So why are they targeting bikes? Also ,if the operation is "no secret" why the unmarked pig transporters? I know it wouldn't be possile, but if a total boycott of the event took place just think of all the money that would be spent for nothing! You don't have to be paranoid to think they're out to get us! :mad:

Doro
09-08-2004, 12:49 PM
we were at cookies funeral last Friday - police escort to the crem after a run along an approx 15 mile journey from his home - after the funeral we were all going back the same route to the pub, and there, hiding up a side road - police speed trap.

like they didn't know there were a lot of bikers in the area

like they weren't p'ssd off because the naughty bikers defied them by NOT wearing their helmets in the run to the crem.

it really sucked considering the circumstances.

MrFluffy
09-08-2004, 01:12 PM
I believe yorks police go out their way to persecute bikers, and id say they were worse than north wales police (which is saying something).
But lets look at the effects? I dont consider driving/riding in yorks to be a more pleasant exercise, nor do I consider the driving standards to be better, in fact the opposite, since now everyone is being forced to compensate for adolph blind with no reactions or brakes in his tin box, theyre actually loosing their skills and in a few years time, limits will again have to be dropped because now everyone (who obeys the limits) driving will have become appaling. Nobody will consider using acceleration or avoidance to get out of a problem, itll be just jam on the brakes and hope..
I rent a house near leeds, but Im pushing with my main client to transfer us to dealing with the surrey office and this heavy handed policing is one of the reasons why (its also the reason why I emigrated in the first place, but ive been lured back by the money). Ill take my money, my rent, council tax and general spending to another region where it will all cost more (and ditto any others who work on the contract), but I dont care, its worth it to get away from it. I wasnt born there, and I have no particular allegiance to the area so its a easy decision to make. And as soon as my contract runs out, We will take all the profits the company has made to another country that I feel doesnt single bikers out specifically in a blanket fashion and stay there till we need to earn money again. I do wish yorkshire well drowning in their own debt if policies like this result in all the passion and innovation pissing off elsewhere...

dracken1
09-08-2004, 01:33 PM
it all boils down to another example of the goverment saying they want us to do something, when in fact its the last thing they want us to do.

one reason for raising fuel costs was to encourage people to use public transport blah blah.
but what if people did?
duty from fuel would plummet, cars would not be replaced as often.and the list goes on and on down the line.

uk roads are already congested. if everyone obeyed the speed limits, then the congestion would be far worse.
we pay road tax for a road system, but if you want more then you have to pay to use various toll roads

cxdemon
09-08-2004, 01:43 PM
Driving standards down here in plymouth are appalling, and our police don't seem to do much other than collect fees from lotsa cameras!

krammer
09-08-2004, 03:45 PM
i read somewhere recently that more resrictions are to be imposed on people who have just passed their bike test, how is it that a 17 year old can (in theory) get behind the wheel of a supercar without any similar restrictions?

Nitrowing
09-08-2004, 05:12 PM
i read somewhere recently that more resrictions are to be imposed on people who have just passed their bike test, how is it that a 17 year old can (in theory) get behind the wheel of a supercar without any similar restrictions?

I bought a GPZ1000RX for £500, how much would a 160mph car cost? :rolleyes:

I know that in principal, what you are saying is right.
A quick case - my mate rode a bike for the first time on Saturday. He's 23, average height and build. He went 8 yards, veered into a parked car (whch is virtually written off now) and cracked his pelvis. Want him to go and spend £500?

Captain Smurf
09-08-2004, 06:32 PM
Further to what Santa said.

In May North Yorks Police had a one day (maybe weekend) blitz on excessive speeding.

I looked up the press release ages ago - cannot find it now - but I remember that they prosecuted 122 people for excessive speed - 16 were bikers.

That make 13% of the offenders bikers. Maybe we should start calling ourselves the 13%ers.

That blitz was prompted mainly by the actions of the Bilsdale Against Noise and Danger group. There main complaint was speeding/noisy bikes and lorries. Haven't had an apology since their complaint was proved to be a little inaccurate.

Jonnyfp
09-08-2004, 08:16 PM
I bought a GPZ1000RX for £500, how much would a 160mph car cost? :rolleyes:


One of the only kwaks i like. that and the 900 oh and zxr400.
500 quid?? that really is cheap speed innit.

Rogue Monkey
10-08-2004, 01:42 PM
<mad>
How many people died falling down stairs last year?
How many junkies died taking overdoses last year?
How many children were sexually abused last year?
How many people were burgled last year?

Will someone please email a dictionary link of the word 'perspective' to our law enforcers please??

</mad>

Right feckin on man! :D Easy targets for the Police! damn sight eayier doing a biker than catching a real criminal! looks good on the figuers and pays well for the cops!